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cliff on consumers. jane wells is deking deeper into the consumer story, joining us now from a mall in california. my, how glittery that swelter is, jane. >> you nope what it's like? did you ever see "total recall," where the guy opens up his coat and he's hosting another being in his gut. >> exactly like that. >> you can't really tell, it's lit up. but back to the consumer which is not buying this. walmart's ceo said 15% of his core customers say all this debate over the deficit is inpacts their shopping and, in fact, concerns over the fiscal cliff, awareness of it has skyrocketed since the election. if you remember, last month, when we asked around, hardly anybody even knew what the fiscal cliff was. listen. >> do you know what the fiscal cliff is? >> good question. don't have a good answer for that. >> fiscal clip? >> cliff. >> oh. >> what is the fiscal cliff? >> i have no idea. >> all right, one month later, nearly everyone knows what it is. nearly. >> are you concerned about this so-called fiscal cl
cliff on consumers. jane wells is deking deeper into the consumer story, joining us now from a mall in california. my, how glittery that swelter is, jane. >> you nope what it's like? did you ever see "total recall," where the guy opens up his coat and he's hosting another being in his gut. >> exactly like that. >> you can't really tell, it's lit up. but back to the consumer which is not buying this. walmart's ceo said 15% of his core customers say all this debate...
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in echo of the original discussions the gentleman and i just hads far as the fiscal cliff is concerned. our commitment is to try to rece the mountain of tet that is strangling this country and trying to stop the spending that continueso spiral out of control. so any discussion of the increase of debt for us has to be accompanied with a real commitment to the reduction in spending, otherwise, those credit rating agencies are going to continue to do what they did. and so in order to engender confidence in those agencies and the market and throughout the american economy and the public, we have got to gain some credibility on the spending issue and stop the spending. that is our position, the gentleman knows at. yes, we all agree america is a country that pays its bills we need to stop racking up so many of them. we've got ton a situation where we are generating trillions, $1 trillion of additional annual debt. we can't do that. and that's why we take the position we do. to try and arrest that, to get our ecomy back on an even keel so we can heal that economy. i yield back. mr. hoyer: i t
in echo of the original discussions the gentleman and i just hads far as the fiscal cliff is concerned. our commitment is to try to rece the mountain of tet that is strangling this country and trying to stop the spending that continueso spiral out of control. so any discussion of the increase of debt for us has to be accompanied with a real commitment to the reduction in spending, otherwise, those credit rating agencies are going to continue to do what they did. and so in order to engender...
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and walked our economy up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts our jobs and the country in danger. it jeopardize is a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and revenue problem. as you can see, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problems. the election was not a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer, and is now up to the white house to show us how they are going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. the president will step up and show us he is willing to make the cuts that are needed, we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he wants to keep chasing higher spending with higher taxes,
and walked our economy up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts our jobs and the country in danger. it jeopardize is a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and revenue problem. as you can see, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problems. the election was not a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses....
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any agreement, and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that, puts jobs in our country, in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important, as long as real cuts in spending, if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the election wasn't a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together, to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it's now up to the white house to show us how they're going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. if the president will step up and show us he's willing to make the spending cuts that are needs, i think we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he w
any agreement, and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that, puts jobs in our country, in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important, as long as real cuts in spending, if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the...
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that's the word from house speaker john boehner as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, tax increases and spending cuts that take effect at year's end. few signs of compromise are an apparent meeting. this may extend through the holidays. also in jeopardy, some $60 billion in hurricane sandy recovery aid. >>> speaking of money for hurricane victims, rock 'n' roll royalty sang for in new york last night. bruce springsteen, bon jovi, kicking off the show with bruce's classic "born to run." $35 billion from ticket sales. paul mccartney filled in for kurt cobain with remembers of nirvana, as they rocked on through the wee hours. it just drew to a close. >>> we have a passing to note this morning. joe allbritain, who was one of washington's influential man has died at the age of 87. allbritton ran eight tv stations, including our favorite station, wjla, whose call letters bare his initials. >>> the last time most of us saw the man they called blade runner was at the london olympics. oscar pistorius was on the track. his revolutionary prosthetic legs. racing an arabian horse. and
that's the word from house speaker john boehner as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, tax increases and spending cuts that take effect at year's end. few signs of compromise are an apparent meeting. this may extend through the holidays. also in jeopardy, some $60 billion in hurricane sandy recovery aid. >>> speaking of money for hurricane victims, rock 'n' roll royalty sang for in new york last night. bruce springsteen, bon jovi, kicking off the show with bruce's classic...
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the fiscal cliff is all about tax hikes. it is not about the spending cuts. then's a problem because we have sluggish growth and we have a spending problem and 16 trillion in debt and raising those taxes aren't going to fix our problems. i've never heard of taxing our way into prosperity. and so i don't understand why the discussion is centering so much around the hikes and not around cutting the spending, which is what we need to do. stuart: the president actually wants 50 billion in extra spending in the -- charles: he also wants the power to raise the debt willy-nilly whenever he wants. the g.o.p. lost that. they should have drawn that line in the sand a long time ago. it's always been about revenues. boehner's already given in on that. it's just how do we come to that numb number? here's the thing, the president isn't going to listen to anything outside of the oval office. what they are telling him, you have a mandate, you have a decisive victory, pound, pound, pound. stuart: i think he will have a tax increase on the rich, promise of spending cuts -- cha
the fiscal cliff is all about tax hikes. it is not about the spending cuts. then's a problem because we have sluggish growth and we have a spending problem and 16 trillion in debt and raising those taxes aren't going to fix our problems. i've never heard of taxing our way into prosperity. and so i don't understand why the discussion is centering so much around the hikes and not around cutting the spending, which is what we need to do. stuart: the president actually wants 50 billion in extra...
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. >> fiscal cliff, of course, is a complete madeup deadline. >> discretionary spending is 1 trillion, 280 billion. we're 18 billion short of having nothing for the entire government. >> what do you think the best possible outcome could be? >> something like simpson-bowles, and work off that. >> when a deal is announced, if the left and the right aren't angry, there's not a real deal. >> we're back on "squawk." and we've got an update on a very interesting/crazy story. john mcafee, holed up in a miami hotel after his deportation from guatemala. we've been bringing you different aspects of this throughout the past couple of weeks. the anti-virus software founder has been evading authorities in belize who want to question him in connection with the death of a neighbor who was shot, if you remember. mcafee said he did not kill the neighbor. fear for his life if he turned himself in to authorities in belize, he was tweeting and blogging about all this as it was going on. mcafee announced on his website last evening that he arrived in miami's south beach neighborhood. american airlines said
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the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> gretchen: so with both sides still hung up over tax hikes and spending cuts, can they come it a consensus in time to avert going off the cliff? let's ask texas congressman jeb hensarling who joins me live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> gretchen: doing just fine, thank you so much. it's interesting because it appears from john boehner that the president isn't budging on the spending cuts. yet i want to point you in the direction of a new fox news poll that came out this morning that said that if there are tax increases, should the president also budge on spending cuts? you want to know how many people said yes? 89%. your thoughts. >> well, i'm gratified by that because the truth is america is facing a debt crisis. under president obama, we've accumulated more debt in four years than in the previous 200. we're borrowing roughly 40 cents on the dollar, much of it from the chinese. sending the bill
the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> gretchen: so with both sides still hung up over tax hikes and spending cuts, can they come it a consensus in time to avert going off the cliff? let's ask texas congressman jeb hensarling who joins me live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> gretchen: doing just fine, thank you so much. it's...
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businesses aren't spending money because of the fiscal cliff. so it's so elusive. it's almost right there. next year could be a good year if we can get some of these uncertainties settled. >> thank you so much, christine. appreciate it. >>> 26 minutes past the hour. >>> without it, a lot of iphone users were lost without it. literally. the app that just made a big comeback. switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading b
businesses aren't spending money because of the fiscal cliff. so it's so elusive. it's almost right there. next year could be a good year if we can get some of these uncertainties settled. >> thank you so much, christine. appreciate it. >>> 26 minutes past the hour. >>> without it, a lot of iphone users were lost without it. literally. the app that just made a big comeback. switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and...
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i don't want to talk about the fiscal cliff and you don't want to hear about it. for the next 20 days, all pundit are contractually obligated to talk budgetary policy and you the viewer are obligated to listen. check your cable contract. (laughter) it's right below the part where come cast gets your kidneys. they'll be there to pick them up tomorrow between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. wear something loose. (laughter) if the parties here cannot agree to a budget deal by january 1, automatic spending cuts will kick in and plunge america into a second recession things are not looking too good. >> in washington, a fly in the ointment. debt deal negotiations have stalled. >> the fiscal cliff stalemate remains. >> the standoff continues. there isn't a lot of reason for hope. >> democrats and republicans are blaming each other for the stalled negotiations. >> who's going to blink sglirs what's going to blink first. >> the white house is daring republicans literally to blink. (laughter) >> stephen: obama is daring republicans literally to blink. well, the joke's
i don't want to talk about the fiscal cliff and you don't want to hear about it. for the next 20 days, all pundit are contractually obligated to talk budgetary policy and you the viewer are obligated to listen. check your cable contract. (laughter) it's right below the part where come cast gets your kidneys. they'll be there to pick them up tomorrow between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. wear something loose. (laughter) if the parties here cannot agree to a budget deal by january 1,...
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. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a list
. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry...
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>> they are still trying to reach a resolution in the fiscal cliff talks. it's getting a little heated between president obama and speaker boehner. take a look at what they've been saying to each other. yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. to which boehner replied, maybe i will. and mr. obama replied, stop copying me. so which boehner replied, stop copying me. >> to which obama replied dam infinity. you win for now boehner. >> according to a new poll that just came out, most americans think santa claus is a democrat. which is odd because you think of white, old, fat men that hire unskilled labor, i think republicans. i do. >>> you're in the situation room. happening now, cnn goes in search of syria's chemical weapons. a former regime soldier tells us his or
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that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was temporary in nature. >> that's not what i asked. i asked what specific would you be willing to do to address what is clearly the number one thing that is going to blow the hole in not only the economy but federal spending, federal budget over the next generation. >> what we have to do is negotiate. everything should be on the table. i think the president indicated that everything would be on the table. the president indicated he is ready to talk about entitlements, et cetera. the other side said we can cannot raise tax hikes at all. we have to make sure that everything is on the table. if everything is
that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was...
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revenue to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff we're talking so much b. otherwise we know there will be automatic tax hikes. there are also the spending cuts that kick in starting in january. the pentagon will bear the brunt of the automatic spending cuts. some republicans say mandatory cuts are better than no cuts at all and we should put defense spending on the chopping block to accomplish the long-term goal of reducing the deficit. joining me now oklahoma congressman james langford, his second term in congress. what do you think about that, some suggesting this is in a political article that the republicans are foresee questions tracing if that is the only way to cut the debt and deficit. >> the challenge of it is this is really part sue of the debt ceiling debate we had last summer. we wanted a strategic plan to reduce the spending. the house passed that in may. we had an outlined plan to reduce spending. we had no answer from them. the see questions station wa sequestration was the last report. i haven't been in congress a longtime but i can tell you
revenue to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff we're talking so much b. otherwise we know there will be automatic tax hikes. there are also the spending cuts that kick in starting in january. the pentagon will bear the brunt of the automatic spending cuts. some republicans say mandatory cuts are better than no cuts at all and we should put defense spending on the chopping block to accomplish the long-term goal of reducing the deficit. joining me now oklahoma congressman james langford, his second...
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the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> so obviously, republicans are trying to change the conversation from taxes to cuts. what do they want? >> well, they want entitlement reform and what we've seen is that the white house has moved a little bit. the president seems to be open to some form of entitlement reform, maybe not what john boehner wants, but they have said in the last couple of days that they will do corporate tax reform. so we are seeing some movement from the white house, but nothing yet from the house republicans. >> all right. john boehner just came to the microphone. he's just met with his caucus. let's see if he has anything new. >> -- the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid out the day after the election. his plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it's mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. our plan meets these standards. it cuts spend
the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> so obviously, republicans are trying to change the conversation from taxes to cuts. what do they want? >> well, they want entitlement reform and what we've seen is that the white house has moved a little bit. the president seems to be open to some form of entitlement reform, maybe not what john boehner wants, but they have said in the last couple of days that they will do...
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now, the spending side of the fiscal cliff is the so-called sequester, automatic cuts in federal spending. some say it's the end of western civilization as we know it. it's hardly the case. after a 64% increase in expenditures during this decade, the sequester doesn't actually cut spending at all. it simply limits spending growth next year to about half of a percent. now i opposed the budget deal that created the sequester last year because it fell woefully short of what standard & poor's clearly warned was necessary to help the a.a.a. credit rating. does our defense spending really need to be higher, inflation adjusted, than it was at the height of the vietnam war when we faced down the soviet union and had 500,000 combat troops in the field? the sequester isn't stepping off a cliff. it is taking one step back from the cliff. now, the tax increases, however, are a very different matter. without intervention, the federal tax burden will balloon 1% at the stroke of -- 21% at the stroke of midnight on new year's eve, taking $2,000 to $3,000 from an averaged family. the house passed legislat
now, the spending side of the fiscal cliff is the so-called sequester, automatic cuts in federal spending. some say it's the end of western civilization as we know it. it's hardly the case. after a 64% increase in expenditures during this decade, the sequester doesn't actually cut spending at all. it simply limits spending growth next year to about half of a percent. now i opposed the budget deal that created the sequester last year because it fell woefully short of what standard & poor's...
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to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. but use that debate as an economic one, says our next guest. chairman of the council of economic advisers under george w. bush and adviser to presidential candidate mitt romney. he's in new york city this morning. glenn, great to see you. >> good morning. likewise. >> what exactly does that mean? because of the context of higher taxes, and spending cuts, you would think there would be an economic impact. how can it not involve economics? >> well, there's certainly an economic impact. my point was just that the real issue for us is that our budget rules were designed for a different set of problems. you know, historically, movements in debt were about war and peace. you borrowed money to fight a war, you paid it off in peace time. now we're talking about the rise of the entitlement states. social security and medicare. we need different budget rules. this isn't just about a fiscal cliff. >> the demographics don't exactly help the problem either. we're in a time when the population is g
to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. but use that debate as an economic one, says our next guest. chairman of the council of economic advisers under george w. bush and adviser to presidential candidate mitt romney. he's in new york city this morning. glenn, great to see you. >> good morning. likewise. >> what exactly does that mean? because of the context of higher taxes, and spending cuts, you would think there would be an economic impact. how can it not involve economics? >>...
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merry cliff mas. with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it has to be exciting. jim? >> the president is asking for 1.6 trillion. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? >> pro union protesters are swarming the michigan capitol building in lansing. >> you're disgusting. >> dude, you are from michigan, detroit. eight mile. you have to come up with better miles than busting and disgusting. if you want to win the rap battle, put effort into it. >> you have one job. one factory. when you seize every benefit you could, yo, my palms are sweaty and knees weak working in the factory building chevies. you plug it in and you win. ecologically because if it was an actual race you would not actually. you got to collect for the union or robots are going to take away our jobs or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands the work will go. this opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo. >> we are locking at heavy rain and we will see improvements as the cold front clears the area. most of the country l
merry cliff mas. with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it has to be exciting. jim? >> the president is asking for 1.6 trillion. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? >> pro union protesters are swarming the michigan capitol building in lansing. >> you're disgusting. >> dude, you are from michigan, detroit. eight mile. you have to come up with better miles...
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the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> nobody should trust democrats to put a dime until real deficit reductions. >> reporter: to better understand the gop positioning, remember what any reduction deficit looks like drawn from two different pots of money. first, tax revenue. second, spending cuts likely to center on changes to entitlements like medicare. on revenues, republicans already conceded to tax increases for the wealthy. the big sticking point is what kind and how much. since that is angering many on the right who oppose any tax increases, republicans want democrats to take the heat for entitlement cuts by proposing them first so republicans don't face the wrath of seniors, too. remember this 2011 ad depicting paul ryan throwing granny off the cliff? the white house says it's republicans who haven't offered specifics and the president has. >> very specific spending cuts, including savings in entitlement programs. again, i -- it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document. >> reporter: that docu
the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> nobody should trust democrats to put a dime until real deficit reductions. >> reporter: to better understand the gop positioning, remember what any reduction deficit looks like drawn from two different pots of money. first, tax revenue. second, spending cuts likely to center on changes to entitlements like medicare. on revenues, republicans already conceded to tax increases for...
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cliff. we'll tell you whether speed or alcohol played a role in the crash. >>> an early-morning fire in a vacant building in oakland. why this is familiar territory for fire crews. >> reporter: we're live in hayward where a mother and son escape a burning apartment. we'll tell you why it's thought the fire was intentionally set. >>> well, good morning. welcome to "mornings on 2." i'm dave clark. >> good morning. i'm tori campbell. it's dues, december 11th -- it's tuesday, december 11th. >>> a cliff rescue is happening right now and one lane is closed because of the rescue. brian flores has more. brian? >> reporter: emergency crews finished up a few minutes ago. both lanes of highway 35 are reopen. besigned me is the general area where this car went off the cliff here. lights just started showing up here. but still very dark out here, as you can see. emergency crews and the california highway patrol, they were hoping to get the car that drove off the cliff. the car drove off the cliff 100 to
cliff. we'll tell you whether speed or alcohol played a role in the crash. >>> an early-morning fire in a vacant building in oakland. why this is familiar territory for fire crews. >> reporter: we're live in hayward where a mother and son escape a burning apartment. we'll tell you why it's thought the fire was intentionally set. >>> well, good morning. welcome to "mornings on 2." i'm dave clark. >> good morning. i'm tori campbell. it's dues, december 11th...
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i'm thinking, after listening this morning, how i learned to stop worrying and love the fiscal cliff. is that where we are right now? >> you know, jim, this shouldn't be that hard. the idea that we've got to get a $4 trillio over ten years, with a mix of revenue increases, spending cuts. you know, when you look at the size of our economy, when you're looking at what's asked of people all across europe, uk, all in emerging nations, this is so small on a relative basis, that it's almost unamerican we're not going to be able to step up and get it done. you know, i'm optimistic that we're going to be able to avoid the fiscal cliff. we're not going to go over that, we're not going to see sequester, the challenge is going to be, is the deal going to be big enough, comprehensive enough that we take that minimum of $4 trillion off this $16 trillion debt over the next ten years. >> we're going to intervene, no matter what, in the trends of american business, meaning as soon as this one is over, we'll have a debt ceiling. because we can't get investment going in this country. that's why people
i'm thinking, after listening this morning, how i learned to stop worrying and love the fiscal cliff. is that where we are right now? >> you know, jim, this shouldn't be that hard. the idea that we've got to get a $4 trillio over ten years, with a mix of revenue increases, spending cuts. you know, when you look at the size of our economy, when you're looking at what's asked of people all across europe, uk, all in emerging nations, this is so small on a relative basis, that it's almost...
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silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck plant to workers in michigan. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news if you are a political reporter, shannon travis live in washington, d.c.. there are some people who say well, let's read into the silence, because that's all we're getting and it's good news. do you feel that way? >> could be potentially good news. there is this notion of not negotiating through the media. the stakes are high, puts pressure on both sides. so on? that sense, as much as we would love to know what's going on in these discussions, it might be good to take some of the pressure off. i will read a statement from hous
silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck plant to workers in michigan. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news...
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patty murray says she doesn't mind going over the fiscal cliff. dick durbin says we can't take up entitlements this year and the president says you can't touch social security plus he wants more spending and whatever the deal is. that's not what the american people thought the fiscal cliff was about. they thought it was about trying to have something to force us, force our congress and our president to do something about the deficit and debt situation. everything they're talking about will make it worse. >> what's the answer? will we have the deal? >> the real answer is to have comprehensive. look at this. i as a republican, i would take raising the rates on the two top brackets if, in return, we had tax reform laid out over a period of months, if we had entitlement reform. we have to control defense spending. we have to control other no non- -- other discretionary non-defense spending. i think if you have the whole package, i would hold my nose despite the fact raising those two tax brackets is bad economics, bad for jobs, will hurt the economy,
patty murray says she doesn't mind going over the fiscal cliff. dick durbin says we can't take up entitlements this year and the president says you can't touch social security plus he wants more spending and whatever the deal is. that's not what the american people thought the fiscal cliff was about. they thought it was about trying to have something to force us, force our congress and our president to do something about the deficit and debt situation. everything they're talking about will make...
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with so much going on, the fiscal cliff, negotiating back and forth with the house trying to figure out how to avoid massive tax increases and spending cuts, why there? it's all politics. >> steve: one other note, the "wall street journal" says regarding right to work states, between 2000 and 2010, 5 million people moved from union states to right to work states and they have 23% higher rate of income growth per capita in right to work states. so things are thriving in the right to work states. there are 24 of them. 26 still are union states. >> gretchen: eric brought up an interesting point about why isn't the president staying in washington, because now it turns out that the fiscal cliff is actually closer than we thought. it was not coakley january 1 anymore. we've about to go off it any day now because apparently it takes a certain amount of days to actually draft any kind of legislation that they might come to an agreement on and so if you backtrack then from the end of the year and when congress is going to be going home for christmas and other holidays, then you really don't have
with so much going on, the fiscal cliff, negotiating back and forth with the house trying to figure out how to avoid massive tax increases and spending cuts, why there? it's all politics. >> steve: one other note, the "wall street journal" says regarding right to work states, between 2000 and 2010, 5 million people moved from union states to right to work states and they have 23% higher rate of income growth per capita in right to work states. so things are thriving in the right...
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sounds like he will get a deal with the fiscal cliff. that he can go to his base and say here's what i got you. so it sounds like he's going to come out of this latest negotiation strong and so he's going to be able to use that, as you say, use that capital. use that clout to try to get something done and it's very encouraging. you have lindsey graham from south carolina who now probably isn't going to face a primary challenge. because of the demint seat now. working with senator schumer from new york, trying to work this out so if there's any positive repercussions from the demint thing is the fact that lindsey graham might now be more likely to work with schumer graham one of the leaders on this issue and work with the democrats in general to try to get something done. it failed -- the talks failed in 2011. this is another shot. >> bill: well, you know, it is -- it is time for this issue. way pastime. way pastime for this issue. >> use the presidential bully pulpit to get this done. the question is what exactly is the tactic? is he goi
sounds like he will get a deal with the fiscal cliff. that he can go to his base and say here's what i got you. so it sounds like he's going to come out of this latest negotiation strong and so he's going to be able to use that, as you say, use that capital. use that clout to try to get something done and it's very encouraging. you have lindsey graham from south carolina who now probably isn't going to face a primary challenge. because of the demint seat now. working with senator schumer from...
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we may be seeing tiny hints of progress in the fiscal cliff crisis. it's getting quiet on capitol hill. 21 days remain before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in, and congress breaks for the holiday, at least they are scheduled to, on friday. this is what you need to know. the president on the road pitching his tax plan to workers at a truck plant in michigan. house speaker boehner were conducting behind the scenes talks with the white house. and the posturing and finger pointing in washington suddenly stopped. we have more from washington. the sounds of silence may be the sounds of progress? >> potentially. we hope so. we don't really know. we're forced to read the tea leaves essentially, john, because neither side is giving details about the substance of discussions. let me read a statement from john boehner's press secretary. "discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer and we continue to wait for th
we may be seeing tiny hints of progress in the fiscal cliff crisis. it's getting quiet on capitol hill. 21 days remain before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in, and congress breaks for the holiday, at least they are scheduled to, on friday. this is what you need to know. the president on the road pitching his tax plan to workers at a truck plant in michigan. house speaker boehner were conducting behind the scenes talks with the white house. and the posturing and finger pointing in...
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if the nation heads over the fiscal cliff. >> consumer spending will go down. that means you've got less customers. businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go on a downward spiral. >> reporter: the president met with house speaker john boehner at the white house. their face-to-face meeting in three weeks. neither side would offer any details from the discussion, which may be a good sign of modest progress. but a spokesman for the republican leader said boehner did not back down. his offer to the white house last week is still the gop's position in the fiscal cliff talks. that plan offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade, including $800 billion in new tax revenue, but no increases on the top 2% of taxpayers. that's where the stalemate seems to be centered. president obama insists taxes on the wealthy must go up. >> but when they start making a million or 10 million or 20 million, you can afford to pay a little more. >> reporter: several republicans indicated that's a concession they're willing to make. >> will
if the nation heads over the fiscal cliff. >> consumer spending will go down. that means you've got less customers. businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go on a downward spiral. >> reporter: the president met with house speaker john boehner at the white house. their face-to-face meeting in three weeks. neither side would offer any details from the discussion, which may be a good sign of modest progress. but a spokesman for the republican leader said boehner did...
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of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody says anything. this could be seen as something more good than bad. >> reporter: exactly. because they didn't come out of the meeting beating each other up and saying i'm never going to sign a deal with the other guy. the fact that they're keeping this quiet, hush hush for now in terms of the details of what they discussed suggests that they're hopeful of a deal, although i have to tell you. the president sounded pretty optimistic when he was in michigan about the possibility of us going off the cliff and falling into a second recession. here's what he had to sa
of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody...
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but there is this, if no deal is struck, and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in this room. that, wolf, is going to lead a lot of voters, democrat and republican, unhappy. >> tom foreman. dramatic way of explaining what's going on. love that virtual studio he's got over there. thank you. >>> new clues potentially uncovered in a deadly decades old mystery haunting a reform school. you'll find out what researchers think they have found. that's next. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] with a select terrain dial that adjusts the jeep grand cherokee's performance for specific weather and road conditions... ♪ ...even heavy snowstorms... won't keep you from getting to work. our apologies. ♪ >>> researchers may have unkfred shocking new evidence of a mass grave at a now closed florid
but there is this, if no deal is struck, and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in this room. that, wolf, is going to lead a lot of voters, democrat and republican, unhappy. >> tom foreman. dramatic way of explaining what's going on. love that virtual studio he's got over there. thank you. >>> new clues potentially uncovered in a deadly decades old mystery haunting a reform...
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. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the car that killed brown. >>> morsi rescinded much of the de krch decree. a disputed draft of the constitution for the country. >>> mandy drew is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mandy. >> good morning, natalie. lots of headwind from overseas, political shakeup in italy and sharply slowing down chinese export growth, keeping u.s. traders on edge not to mention the vagaries of the fiscal cliff. markets move with progress or lack of progress as the case may be. the congressional budget office says we could be back in recession the first half of next year if a deal is not reached. those are t
. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the...
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moving on, president obama's offer on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >> gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. james holmes expected to appear in court today. this will be the first time we look at him since he was taken to the hospital for a head injury last month af
moving on, president obama's offer on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident......
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cliff that will take place in january from congress and they may strike a budget deal by then. economists think it could downs back in november with unemployment still high the trend remains weak because households don't have the income to spend. that ties in with the borrowing numbers as well. credit card usage has gone 17 percent since the 2008 credit cli cries lis. the category auto and student loans is 22 percent higher. they get training for new careers. >> diane macedo from the fox business network it is 14 minutes before the top of the hour. you could call them a mosque carade. it promised to be a lot more than a praise of prayer. turns out that is all they are doing there. we will tell you the details. >> they were trying to wreak havoc on the neighbor's decorations. check with steve doocy to see what's coming up. >> thank you very much. exactly. 13 minutes before fox and friends kicks off. who says there's no such thing as a free lunch. whoever said that has to dine with uncle sam. millions of dollars of tax payer money feeding children for free. before they need it or
cliff that will take place in january from congress and they may strike a budget deal by then. economists think it could downs back in november with unemployment still high the trend remains weak because households don't have the income to spend. that ties in with the borrowing numbers as well. credit card usage has gone 17 percent since the 2008 credit cli cries lis. the category auto and student loans is 22 percent higher. they get training for new careers. >> diane macedo from the fox...
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you know about the tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in when we reach that fiscal cliff. you might not know what could happen to the food we eat. we'll take a look coming up. there are plenty of reasons to be jolly at the chevy year-end event because chevy's giving more. more efficiency with sonic and cruze... more function in equinox and traverse... more dependability with the legendary silverado... and more style in the all-new malibu. chevy's giving more at the year-end event because 'tis the season. chevy's giving more. this holiday season, get a 2013 cruze ls for around $169 per month or get $500 holiday bonus cash. [ nyquil bottle ] just reading your label. wait...you relieve nasal congestion? sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes!
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lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability. that is deficit reduction and tax increases and spending cuts that allow the gdp ratio to stabilize by the end of the decade. these three things need to be done now. in terms of the fiscal cliff, if policy is unchanged and we go over the cliff and there is still no change after that, the gdp in 2013 will 3.5 percentage points. subtract that and that is a severe recession. cbo and others are probably us are underestimating how severe that will be because confidence is very weak. it is unclear how the reserve would response to this. we need to scale back from the cliff. at the very minimum, the cliff needs to be scaled back so it is only a hit to gdp at 1.5 percentage points at most. if you have more of a drive than that, it it becomes it. the economy will weaken. the budget deduction will deteriorate. we are seeing a fiscal drag in europe. i w
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, reform some entitlements to avoid this bad situation which we're calling the fiscal cliff, when you have automatic tax increases and spending cuts, but as we, you know, the time goes, it's been three weeks since the election, i'm growing increasingly pessimistic. >> we're been talking about it on the show, chris, and brought up a couple of times that the president, if he does nothing, the tax cuts expire, and the defense cuts go into place, which is largely what the democrats want to have happened and republicans now making the argument. perhaps the president is not going to negotiate because he wants to simply step back and want things to unfold. do you buy that. i think he does want to compromise because if this were to go on long enough. i don't think it happens the first week after the fiscal cliff, but if you continue with this and all of the things that happen, all of the bush tax cuts expire, not only on the rich, but also the middle class, the spending cuts, about 100 million in the first year, you could grow according to the congressional budget office or unemployment back
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as the fiscal cliff. despite a call between president obama and john boehner, the two sides appear to be no closer to a compromise. are republicans working on the scenes on a plan b? wall street journal columnist, dan henninger and kim strassel. you have bean working the phones, is there something going on between speaker boehner and the president? >> no, i think that they are nowhere and it's because the president is refusing to budge at all on the top toks ratestopx rates and we'll go off the cliff if the republicans don't acreed to that demand. so we're still at a stand still. >> paul: kim, why is the president so insistent on increasing tax rates? boehner has already put on the table a comparable amount of money to be gained from putting a cap on deductions, about 800 billion over ten years, so such a-- >> look, paul, two reasons. first is ideological. his partisans, his liberal base believe this is somehow a symbol of winning the tax fight and you can only do that by raising the rates on the wealthy
as the fiscal cliff. despite a call between president obama and john boehner, the two sides appear to be no closer to a compromise. are republicans working on the scenes on a plan b? wall street journal columnist, dan henninger and kim strassel. you have bean working the phones, is there something going on between speaker boehner and the president? >> no, i think that they are nowhere and it's because the president is refusing to budge at all on the top toks ratestopx rates and we'll go...
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taxes and not spending cuts in averting the fiscal cliff. >> the facts are that at this point the 39.6% does produce the revenue. the differentiation between the 39 pin 6% and the 28% that the president has for limitation or deductions creates a great deal of money as well. >> one conservative commentator suggested the out come of the fiscal talks won't be the end of the world. >> we will have taxes which are roughly the same as they were underon. we did fine in that. we will do fine. >> the question is whether these negotiations will lead to making other tough choices such as washington getting a handle on the growth of government. if not the european example seems to suggest huge fiscal trouble coming to our shores as well. mike emmanuel, fox news. >>> here is a doozie of a story. a baby mix up at a minneapolis hospital results in a new mother breastfeeding another woman's baby. i told you it was a doozie. the woman given the wrong infant realized that something was not right. >> when they brought cody she thought to herself it didn't look like her other baby. but her husband reassure
taxes and not spending cuts in averting the fiscal cliff. >> the facts are that at this point the 39.6% does produce the revenue. the differentiation between the 39 pin 6% and the 28% that the president has for limitation or deductions creates a great deal of money as well. >> one conservative commentator suggested the out come of the fiscal talks won't be the end of the world. >> we will have taxes which are roughly the same as they were underon. we did fine in that. we will...
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of the fiscal cliff coming up. janu will have the lead is with our forecast coming up. >> we are back. president obama is continuing to push for his middle class tax cut plan. in his weekly me the address, obama accuses house republicans of blocking a bill that would prevent a tax increase on the middle class. the democratic controlled senate has approved a plan. o obamas as a house bill lores rates for the wealthiest americans, instead of raising them as he has proposed. >> this is the only way to put our economy without asking more. this is the only plan that i am willing to sign. >> for the gop, florida senator marco rubio says tax increases will not solve the nation's 16 trillion dollar debt. he says the only way to do that is through economic growth and reform of entitlement programs. rubio says that limited government can help restore the middle class. >> be extra careful of side due to the fog. this is a view from our mt. tam and there is fog in the midst of clouds. it is partly cloudy. it is mostly sunny co
of the fiscal cliff coming up. janu will have the lead is with our forecast coming up. >> we are back. president obama is continuing to push for his middle class tax cut plan. in his weekly me the address, obama accuses house republicans of blocking a bill that would prevent a tax increase on the middle class. the democratic controlled senate has approved a plan. o obamas as a house bill lores rates for the wealthiest americans, instead of raising them as he has proposed. >> this is...
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cliff. republicans and democrats keep arguing into the new year. others are worried failure to strike a deal could send the nation back into a recession. >> i think people understand the failure to compromise and going over the cliff could really jeopardize this recovery. the good news today about more people back at work, the unemployment rate coming down, listen, that can be reversed if people lose confidence in our future. >> the number two senate ranked democrat mr. temperature bib argues next week will be critical in terms of president obama and speaker boehner finding a compromise. shep? >> shepard: democrats are still saying what they have said all along and what the president ran on this is about taxes. >> that is true and they note president obama campaigned on upper income americans paying more so they intend to make sure that happens. the house democratic leader says the only obstacle is republicans refusing to ask the top 2% to pay more. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is
cliff. republicans and democrats keep arguing into the new year. others are worried failure to strike a deal could send the nation back into a recession. >> i think people understand the failure to compromise and going over the cliff could really jeopardize this recovery. the good news today about more people back at work, the unemployment rate coming down, listen, that can be reversed if people lose confidence in our future. >> the number two senate ranked democrat mr. temperature...
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let us start with where we are on the question of resolving the immediate fiscal cliff issues. how would you describe your temperature that there will be some kind of accommodation and a deal on the tax or spending sequester side or both? >> good morning. i am pleased to be with you and give you my perspective on where we are. i will start by something i often say when i am giving remarks in my district -- that i am struck with in my district in philadelphia. people of this same group no matter how partisan a are corn non-partisan the group is, people will say different things to me. they will say, i want you to go to washington and stand on your principles. go and fight for us. i say, i will. someone else will say, i want you to compromise and get things done. that is the 10th thing -- 10th time that has happened. that is what they hired me to do -- figure out how we do both. it is our job as representatives in congress, to fight for our values and priorities and principles we believe in and get something done. the divide that we are facing right now -- i hope that all represe
let us start with where we are on the question of resolving the immediate fiscal cliff issues. how would you describe your temperature that there will be some kind of accommodation and a deal on the tax or spending sequester side or both? >> good morning. i am pleased to be with you and give you my perspective on where we are. i will start by something i often say when i am giving remarks in my district -- that i am struck with in my district in philadelphia. people of this same group no...
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cliff, they seem to be willing to go down that road of big government, big spending, no spending restraints, higher taxes. that is not what the republican party has ever been about. now enough republicans have gone down that road where we're in this mess now but what demint is saying look as conservatives we have to start talking about and fighting for first principles. that is the constitution, limited government, fiscal responsibility economic freedom. republican establishment is not clearly making that case. it is now up to conservatives to do that. demint will be leading charge. jon: he is the hero of the tea party which did so much damage to liberals in the 2010 election. >> done so much damage to themselves. harry reid would all agree would not be in the senate if not for the tea party nominating sharron angle, not not a strong candidate. delaware, todd aiken in missouri. tea party done a lot of damage to republican party. you would probably have senate republican leader mitch mcconnell if not for the tea party. to monica's point, jim demint will create problems from somebody like joh
cliff, they seem to be willing to go down that road of big government, big spending, no spending restraints, higher taxes. that is not what the republican party has ever been about. now enough republicans have gone down that road where we're in this mess now but what demint is saying look as conservatives we have to start talking about and fighting for first principles. that is the constitution, limited government, fiscal responsibility economic freedom. republican establishment is not clearly...
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cliff." top economists showed up at the capital today for further talks about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. from a home in virginia president obama sat with a middle class family he says will be hit hard if congress doesn't extend middle class tax cuts. >> for them to be burden unthis isly because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> republicans are standing behind their counter-offer to close tax loopholes and limit some deductions. they say the president needs to deliver a new plan they can agree on before the january 1 deadline. >>> stocks inched up as investors kept and eye on washington. the dow was up around 40, nasdaq up 16, s&p saw a 5 point increase. >>> the dungeness crab season has hit a snag. local crabbers are refusing to fish for the northern california delicacy after a new price fight with the wholesalers. the cbs 5 reporter anne m
cliff." top economists showed up at the capital today for further talks about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. from a home in virginia president obama sat with a middle class family he says will be hit hard if congress doesn't extend middle class tax cuts. >> for them to be burden unthis isly because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms....